and paul ryan on their checks plan on their medicare advantage plan and threats most critically on the position of abortion and chris matthews like an overjoyed preteen girl over biden's perceived victory big change from last week where he practically lost it at the presidential debate so joe biden won well let's see what fox had to say the guy came across just thoughtful and substantive and fluid and respectful was paul ryan i thought supporter performance on his part tonight the third question is that was karl rove saying that paul ryan one wait why is bush is the lackey still relevant talking head see this irks me because this is where people get their news one channel tells you one thing another channel tells you another but it's all superficial malarkey or neither will tell you the truth let's see what c.n.n. had to say. so what we take away all in in terms of who won well clear winner unfortunately wolf i've got to tell you this is a dead heat a third for joe biden a third for paul ryan and a third are undecided tonight let me talk really burnett the best analysis you can give us